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Next Session will be happen on 14th July 2010 4 UTC with Elin Waring and Mark Dexter.

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[19:23] * Now talking in #joomla-ask-the-team
[19:23] * Topic is 'Join Joomla! team members for weekly Q&A sessions. The next session with Javier Gomez is on 7th July 2010 20 UTC (http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=7&month=7&year=2010&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=0)'
[19:24] <javiergomez> Hi all
[19:24] <javiergomez> Today I will be with Mark Dexter
[19:24] <javiergomez> in the Ask the team
[19:25] <gnumax> hi
[19:25] <javiergomez> it will start in 2 hours and a half
[19:25] <gnumax> ok
[19:25] <gnumax> thks
[19:25] <javiergomez> but today is the football match between
[19:25] <gnumax> :P
[19:25] <javiergomez> spain and germany
[19:25] <ian_mac_> you want me to change the topic to reflect the time change?
[19:25] <javiergomez> so I think that nobody is going to enter until the match ends
[19:25] <javiergomez> lol
[19:26] <javiergomez> what do you think?
[19:26] <ian_mac_> ummmm
[19:26] <ian_mac_> well
[19:26] <ian_mac_> I think a lot of people don't care about the football game
[19:26] <ian_mac_> but
[19:26] <ian_mac_> *shrug*
[19:26] <ian_mac_> whatever you guys think
[19:26] <javiergomez> yes please Ian
[19:26] <javiergomez> the starting hour is 20 UTC
[19:27] <javiergomez> if you click to the link
[19:27] <gnumax> Spain win
[19:27] <javiergomez> it says 16.00h that is not correct
[19:27] <gnumax> and all enter
[19:27] <javiergomez> It mus say 20.00h UTC
[19:27] <ian_mac_> ahh you are correct
[19:27] <ian_mac_> the google doc says 20
[19:28] <javiergomez> yes
[19:28] <javiergomez> the problem is the url in this chatroom
[19:28] <javiergomez> that is not right
[19:28] <gnumax> 20 UTC
[19:28] <javiergomez> ???
[19:29] <gnumax> jejeje  the boot is crazy
[19:29] <gnumax> :P
[19:29] <Little^John> cool
[19:29] <Little^John> that leaves just enough time for cleaning the fishpond and the soccer match
[19:29] <gnumax> need a recycling
[19:29] <Little^John> bbl :)
[19:30] <ian_mac_> there
[19:30] <ian_mac_> how's that?
[19:30] <gnumax> where are the friendly URLs??
[19:30] <gnumax> ;)
[19:31] <ian_mac_> what's not friendly about that URL?
[19:33] <gnumax>  this is friendly? -> (http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=7&month=7&year=2010&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=0)
[19:33] <@jools> Title: The Fixed Time World Clock (at timeanddate.com)
[19:33] <ian_mac_> sure
[19:33] <ian_mac_> tells you the day the month the year and the time right in the URL
[19:33] <ian_mac_> no obfuscation
[19:33] <ian_mac_> nothing hidden
[19:33] <gnumax> this is friendly -> http://tinyurl.com/2f9x4l9
[19:33] <@jools> Title: The Fixed Time World Clock (at tinyurl.com)
[19:33] <gnumax> ;)
[19:33] <ian_mac_> plainly understandable
[19:33] <gnumax> yes
[19:33] <ian_mac_> this isn't twitter, there's no character limit
[19:34] <gnumax> jeje yes
[19:34] <ian_mac_> the tinyurl URL - I have no idea where that goes
[19:34] <gnumax> was a joke23 ;)
[19:34] <ian_mac_> yeah
[19:34] <ian_mac_> I know
[19:35] <ian_mac_> I just don't like the constant assertion that shorter URLs are friendlier
[19:35] <ian_mac_> (that's not directed at you :) )
[19:37] <gnumax> #esp 4 #ger 2 is it possible?
[19:44] <javiergomez> well I'll be watching the match until the time to start
[19:44] <javiergomez> se u later
[19:45] <alverht> hola
[20:26] <VectorX> wtf is going on, this is a mexican invasion
[20:26] <gnumax> ?
[20:27] <VectorX> hola back at you man
[20:28] <gnumax> nice
[20:28] <VectorX> there was a bunch of dinners leading to the wedding, just the wedding party, everybody got food poisoning, but i was hogging the calamari so i got hit the worse
[20:29] <gnumax> spam??
[20:29] <VectorX> so i couldnt make it, they had to get someone else as the best man, and that guy didnt make a speech
[20:29] <VectorX> i was all ready and what not
[20:29] <VectorX> hopefully i make it to the next one
[20:30] <VectorX> gnumax not spam, calamari
[20:30] <gnumax> what you mean Knight McKay?
[20:31] <VectorX> thats amazing, you found the whois button
[21:56] <xavier___> en dond veo eso porfq
[21:56] <Niko86> Prueba cambia r el editor Wysing a ver  que
[21:57] <javiergomez> hola a todos
[21:57] <javiergomez> hi all
[21:57] <Niko86> Hola
[21:57] <javiergomez> Today you are able to do the questions in english or spanish
[21:57] <Niko86> eso se mira  en la configuración de los Usuarios
[21:57] <javiergomez> I will be translating
[21:57] <javiergomez> so don't rush
[21:57] <javiergomez> hoy se pueden hacer preguntas en español
[21:57] <javiergomez> e ingles
[21:57] <javiergomez> y yo iré traduciendo
[21:58] <Niko86> Gracias  javier
[21:58] <javiergomez> así que por favor no corrais
[21:58] <Niko86> ;)
[21:58] <xavier___> dond le cambio el editor wingysig
[21:58] <javiergomez> en el usuario
[21:58] <javiergomez> Administración -> gestor de usuarios
[21:58] <javiergomez> entras en tu usuario
[21:58] <Niko86> ajap
[21:58] <javiergomez> y en la parte derecha
[21:58] <javiergomez> puedes cambiar el editor
[21:58] <Niko86> allí es
[22:00] <javiergomez> We are not expectin many people until the match ends
[22:00] <javiergomez> no esperamos mucha gente hasta que termine el partido
[22:00] <javiergomez> but you can start asking questions if you want
[22:00] <Tonixgm> me gustaria preguntar que pasaran con las extensiones actuales cuando salga la version 1.6
[22:00] <javiergomez> pero podeis hacer preguntas
[22:01] <xavier___> eso lo hqgo cuqndo prendo el computador
[22:01] <javiergomez> Tonixgm, en el framework the la 1.6 los cambios son significativos así que habrá que hacer adaptaciones
[22:01] <javiergomez> pero espera que Mark seguro que puede responder mejor
[22:01] <javiergomez> Mark could you please help us with that
[22:01] <javiergomez> Tonixgm is asking
[22:02] <javiergomez> what is going to happen with the extensions of 1.5 when 1.6 will be released
[22:02] <Mark_Dexter> Version 1.5 of Joomla! will continue to be supported for a period of time.
[22:02] <Mark_Dexter> So, I believe that the 1.5 extensions will still be listed on the JED.
[22:03] <Mark_Dexter> Ian, do you know about this?
[22:03] <javiergomez> and if I have a extension for 1.5 do I need to do many changes for it to work for 1.6?
[22:03] <Mark_Dexter> Well, of course, that will depend very much on the extension.
[22:03] <Mark_Dexter> In general, you will want to change the extension to take advantage of some of the new capabilities of version 1.6.
[22:04] <ian_mac_> 1.5 will be supported for one year past 1.6 GA
[22:04] <genson> Hola javiergomez, un saludo, espero que te vaya bien todo
[22:04] <javiergomez> I'm going to translate it
[22:04] <ian_mac_> Changes required will depend on how 1.5 native it is
[22:04] <javiergomez> 1.5 será mantenida
[22:04] <javiergomez> así que las extensiones seguirán sirviendo
[22:04] <javiergomez> pero un desarrollador querrá adaptar la extensión a 1.6
[22:05] <javiergomez> teniendo en cuenta las ventajas
[22:05] <ian_mac_> one thing that will catch a lot of extensions is that the $mainframe global is gone
[22:05] <ian_mac_> as it was deprecated in 1.5
[22:05] <javiergomez> what do you mean Ian?
[22:06] <ian_mac_> extension that rely on the global variable $mainframe being present
[22:06] <ian_mac_> will break
[22:06] <Tonixgm> gracias javier, entonces la 1.5 tendra soporte durante un año más.
[22:06] <Little^John> Hi
[22:06] <javiergomez> Tonixgm is asking if 1.5 will remain for at least a year
[22:06] <javiergomez> ?
[22:06] <Tonixgm> Las extensiones más significativas seran evolucionadas supuestamente por sus creadores
[22:07] <Mark_Dexter> Yes.
[22:07] <ian_mac_> I answered that already
[22:07] <ian_mac_> 1.5 will be supported for one year past 1.6 GA
[22:07] <Mark_Dexter> A year after 1.6 is released.
[22:07] <javiergomez> SÌ Tonixgm igual que se hizo con 1.0 efectivamente estará un año más
[22:08] <javiergomez> Y es trabajo de los desarrolladores evolucionar sus extensiones
[22:08] <javiergomez> pero cuenta con ello
[22:08] <javiergomez> porque 1.6 viene con muchas ventajas
[22:08] <javiergomez> para el desarrollador
[22:08] <javiergomez> entre ellas el ACL
[22:08] <javiergomez> o lista de control de accesos
[22:09] <Little^John> ?
[22:09] <Tonixgm> gracias, pero es que hay algunas extensiones que son gratuitas y sus versiones más recientes de pago
[22:09] <javiergomez> Hi little John
[22:09] <javiergomez> we are having today
[22:09] <javiergomez> a mixed spanish-english
[22:09] <javiergomez> chat
[22:09] <javiergomez> is a bit crazt
[22:09] <javiergomez> crazy
[22:09] <javiergomez> but fun
[22:09] <gnumax> Javier, ya tienes las Guidelines en tu mail ;)
[22:09] <javiergomez> don't hesitate to do your questions
[22:09] <Mark_Dexter> By the way, the best way to see how difficult converting your 1.5 extension to 1.6 is to start working on it with the 1.6 beta version.
[22:10] <genson> Entoces, cuando la 1.6 deje de ser beta, el traslado de 1.5 a 1.6, que conllevará?
[22:10] <Mark_Dexter> Then, you could write an article in the wiki to tell others your experience.
[22:10] <javiergomez> Tonixgm is asking about some extensions that it's new versions are not free
[22:10] <Mark_Dexter> I'm not sure what the question is.
[22:10] <javiergomez> Mark_Dexter recomienda empezar a provar vuestras extensiones con la beta de 1.6
[22:11] <javiergomez> yes the question is not really clear
[22:11] <javiergomez> Tonygmx, tu pregunta no está clara
[22:11] <javiergomez> no se si era una afirmación o pregunta
[22:11] <javiergomez> puedes especificar
[22:11] <javiergomez> ?
[22:11] <Tonixgm> si claro ..
[22:12] <Tonixgm> resulta que dispongo de alguna extensión antigua que fue gratis y dejo de serlo m√°s tarde
[22:12] <Tonixgm> con lo cual deberia probar si funciona correctamente con 1.6
[22:12] <xavier___> sqbes yq hice lo a me dijeron pero no me funciono
[22:12] <Tonixgm> es así ?
[22:13] <javiergomez> está dentro de las opciones de un desarrollador en GPL
[22:13] <javiergomez> pero la versión gratuita permanecerá así
[22:13] <xavier___> siii
[22:13] <javiergomez> esa respuesta no tiene que ver con lo que pueda decir el core team
[22:13] <xavier___> sigo sin ver lqs imágenes por el explorer
[22:13] <javiergomez> Mark, Ian, I'm saying that this is not a question that we can answer
[22:13] <Tonixgm> ok, pues sera cuestión de hacer pruebas con ellas
[22:14] <javiergomez> he can ask to the developer of that extension
[22:14] <javiergomez> is that right?
[22:14] <Mark_Dexter> yes
[22:14] <Mark_Dexter> I think we list commercial extensions on the JED as long as the license is GPL.
[22:15] <javiergomez> that is true
[22:15] <Mark_Dexter> commercial meaning that they charge money for the extension
[22:15] <Little^John> not to be rude, but is it possible to keep it in english? Kind of feeling the englishtalking people are missing a lot ...
[22:15] <javiergomez> en el JED (directorio de extensiones) teneis extensiones comerciales o gratuitas siempre y cuando sean GPL
[22:15] <xavier___> son gratuitas
[22:15] <javiergomez> Little John I'm doing my best to translate
[22:16] <xavier___> son gratuitas
[22:16] <Little^John> its appreciated ;)
[22:16] <guxedo> hi everybody !
[22:16] <Tonixgm> Ok Javier ... muchas gracias
[22:16] <javiergomez> Hi guxedo, bienvenido
[22:17] <guxedo> hola ! muchas gracias !
[22:17] <javiergomez> I bet you a beer that in 5 minutes more users will enter, since the match is almost ending
[22:17] <javiergomez> Os apuesto a que ahora entrar· de golpe m·s gente, tan pronto como acabe el partido
[22:17] <javiergomez> jeje/lol
[22:17] <guxedo> si, seguro !
[22:17] <gnumax> yes javier ;)
[22:18] <Tonixgm> yo lo estoy viendo ahora mismo jejeje
[22:18] <guxedo> seguro !
[22:18] <javiergomez> Does anyone of you goes with Germany?
[22:19] <javiergomez> alguien va con alemania?
[22:19] <guxedo> estaría bueno que Paul tambiín se incorpore al irc, ya que tiene la posta
[22:19] <javiergomez> end of the match
[22:19] <javiergomez> Spain 1 - Germany 0
[22:20] <Tonixgm> :)))
[22:20] <Tonixgm> oooeeeehhhh ooeehhh
[22:20] <Mark_Dexter> I predict that the World Cup winner will be a county that has never before won it.
[22:20] <javiergomez> :)
[22:21] <javiergomez> Can I ask to all of you, where are you comming from?
[22:21] <javiergomez> podeis decir de donde sois?
[22:21] <Mark_Dexter> USA
[22:21] <javiergomez> Barcelona (Spain)
[22:21] <guxedo> Argentina
[22:21] <Mark_Dexter> (Seattle)
[22:21] <guxedo> Buenos Aires (Argentina)
[22:21] <Little^John> Mark_Dexter, I see the 1.5 bug tracker is increasing .. What are the status of the 1.5 bugs vs the 1.6 issues?
[22:21] <Niko86> Yo iba con alemania
[22:21] <Mark_Dexter> Well, we are not fixing many bugs in 1.5 from now on.
[22:22] <isiroca> Vigo, north Spain...
[22:22] <Mark_Dexter> Mainly, we are fixing security fixes in 1.5.
[22:22] <Tonixgm> Barcelona (Spain)
[22:22] <Mark_Dexter> If we have a very serious bug in 1.5, we will fix it.
[22:22] <javiergomez> LittleJohn dice que el tracker the errores de 1.5 est· aumentando. Y pregunta cual es el estado de los bugs de 1.5 contra el de 1.6
[22:22] <Mark_Dexter> But the Bug Squad is working on 1.6 now.
[22:23] <javiergomez> Mark responde que si hay un error grave en 1.5 se corregir· inmediatamente
[22:23] <Little^John> True. Isnt it a dangerous thing to abandon the functionality of 1.5 already?
[22:23] <javiergomez> pero que el equipo de búsqueda de errores está trabajando sólo en 1.6
[22:23] <Mark_Dexter> Well, I don't think that only fixing serious bugs and security issues is "abandoning" version 1.5
[22:23] <javiergomez> LittleJohn pregunta si no es peligroso abandonar 1.5
[22:23] <Mark_Dexter> We have a limited number of people working on this.
[22:24] <Mark_Dexter> We can use more help.
[22:24] <javiergomez> Mark_Dexter responde que dedicarse a corregir errrores serios y problemas de seguridad sea "abandonar" la versiÛn 1.5
[22:24] <genson> Barcelona
[22:24] <javiergomez> Mark contesta que se ha limitado la gente dedicada a 1.5
[22:24] <gnumax> Spain - Brazil ;)
[22:25] <Tonixgm> Con la 1.6 podremos limitar por ACL a los usuarios para que tan solo modifiquen su propio contenido
[22:25] <Mark_Dexter> If we don't focus our work on version 1.6, it will take that much longer to get it ready.
[22:25] <javiergomez> Tonixgm ask if with the ACL we can allow a user only to change it's own content
[22:25] <genson> Hola Javier, me parece que dice que unicamente corregir errores serios, no es abandonar la 1.5
[22:26] <gnumax> where are you jools? ;)
[22:26] <javiergomez> Mark dice que si no nos dedicamos a la 1.6 tardariamos mucho en terminarla
[22:26] <Mark_Dexter> I believe that being able to change your own content is being added into the ACL.
[22:26] <Little^John> The # of people limits the work of course, and Im not blaming for the 1.6 focus. I just think some of the open issues (in the 8 pages) are serious enough to need fixing. :)
[22:26] <paintman> hey beunas tardes..
[22:26] <javiergomez> Mark dice en respuesta a Tonixgm que Èl cree que sÌ. Y yo estoy casi seguro que sÌ.
[22:26] <gnumax> the 1.6 lost a year waiting
[22:26] <javiergomez> Welcome paintman, bienvenido paintman
[22:26] <paintman> amigos ando buscando una aplicacion para que pueda poner una comunidad de contactos
[22:27] <paintman> como la de amigos.com
[22:27] <paintman> algo lo mas parecido..
[22:27] <paintman> alguientiene unaidea donde se puede adquirir esa aplicacion
[22:27] <Tonixgm> Gracias Javier, Thank you Mark
[22:27] <paintman> Gracias Javier..
[22:27] <Mark_Dexter> Little John, if you have specific issues you think should be fixed in 1.5, please feel free to suggest them in the JBS google group or in the tracker.
[22:27] <javiergomez> paintman wants a extensions that allows him to build a community like amigos.com
[22:27] <Niko86> Paintan...  podría usar  Comunity Builder
[22:27] <Mark_Dexter> We are not against fixing 1.5 bugs.
[22:28] <paintman> si encontre comunity builder..
[22:28] <paintman> pero mi clienta quiere algo as vistoso...
[22:28] <javiergomez> Mark le dice a Little John que si cree que algo debería arreglarse en 1.5 que, adelante, que haga su propuesta
[22:28] <javiergomez> que en ning˙n caso estamos en contra de corregir la 1.5
[22:28] <paintman> yes Javier.. i need use a community like amigos.com
[22:28] <Niko86> Javier... quiero hacer una pregunta
[22:29] <paintman> is for a city in especific..
[22:29] <Little^John> Okay. Ill have a look when I have some time.
[22:29] <javiergomez> paintman hay algunas extensiones comerciales para hacer comunidadeds como la de people.joomla.org
[22:29] <javiergomez> pero mencionarlas sería hacer publicidad de terceros
[22:29] <Mark_Dexter> The other thing about 1.5 bugs is that we want to make very certain that we don't break anything when we fix something.
[22:29] <javiergomez> te ruego que redirijas tu pregunta a los foros
[22:29] <Mark_Dexter> It is very easy to do.
[22:30] <javiergomez> Mark_Dexter dice que tenemos que estar muy seguros de que no rompemos nada cuando arreglamos algo
[22:30] <javiergomez> refiriéndose a la 1.5
[22:30] <paintman> ahhhh ok.. people.joomla.org..
[22:30] <Tonixgm> Hay fecha para una 4 release, pero cuando saldra la buena ??
[22:30] <guxedo> Javier, pregunta: en la 1.6 es posible migrar lo que tenemos en 1.5 ?
[22:30] <Niko86> la pregunta es la siguiente:  Qué inconvenientes se  van a presentar para los que nos queramos migrar de la versión J1.5 a la 1.6, habrá alguna herramienta para hacer la migracion?
[22:30] <Little^John> why cant joomla do google translate from channel to private queries? :P
[22:30] <gnumax> 1 year  ago joomla.org said that would limit commercial extensions in JED... because  there were limited?
[22:30] <guxedo> igual pregunta que Niko86
[22:31] <javiergomez> I told paintman that we are not going to recommend commercial extensions here, that he can ask the question in the forums better.
[22:31] <Little^John> would seem a lot easier ;)
[22:31] <javiergomez> and I said about the people.joomla.com site
[22:31] <javiergomez> that is a community site
[22:32] <javiergomez> Mark and Ian, Niko86 is asking about if therer will be a tool for update 1.5 to 1.6
[22:32] <gnumax> Javier, mi pregunta para chris davenport
[22:32] <javiergomez> Chris Davenport, are you connected, Gnumax has a question for you?
[22:33] <gnumax> 1 year  ago joomla.org said that would limit commercial extensions in JED... because  there were limited?
[22:33] <javiergomez> que quieres decir con limitar?
[22:33] <javiergomez> la limitación está en la licencia
[22:33] <gnumax> que no se permitirian en el JED
[22:33] <javiergomez> si no son GPL no podrán estar listadas en el extensions
[22:33] <paintman> ya veola pagina de people.joomla.org, esta muy bien..
[22:34] <paintman> algo a si necesito hacer
[22:34] <gnumax> y cada vez mas extensiones Comerciales inundan el JED
[22:34] <paintman> si es para una amiga que quiere hacer una comunidad, pero va a vender publicidad dentro de la pagina
[22:34] <javiergomez> Para los que no lo conozcais Chris Davenport es el responsable de la wiki docs.joomla.org
[22:34] <gnumax> paintman ¿puedes plantear esas cosas en el Foro?
[22:34] <paintman> ok.. i will check the forums...
[22:34] <paintman> thanks for the tips friends!!!!
[22:35] <paintman> its great see peopple here..
[22:35] <javiergomez> Mark, Ian, Chris can you introduce yourselves
[22:35] <javiergomez> I will start
[22:35] <javiergomez> Para que nos conozcamos mejor, me presento
[22:35] <gnumax> ok
[22:35] <xavier___> tengo joomla version 1.5.9 cuando subo imagenes no las puedo ver por el explorer pero si por el mozilla
[22:36] <javiergomez> yo soy Javier Gómez, soy miembro de la junta directiva de la OpenSourceMatters, la organización que da soporte legal al proyecto Joomla!. I'm Javier Gómez, member of OSM, the non-profit that gives legal support to the joomla project
[22:36] <paintman> Mucho gusto Javier..
[22:37] <javiergomez> Xavier__ says that he has Joomla! 1.5.9 and an that he can upload images with explorer, buy yes with mozilla
[22:37] <gnumax> xavier__ ese tipo de cuestiones puedes plantearlas en el Foro de joomla.org - https://forum.joomla.org/viewforum.php?f=24&sid=ee4c49a738d6ca98c4c71e0258667bfb
[22:37] <@jools> Title: Joomla! View forum - Spanish Forum (at forum.joomla.org)
[22:37] <paintman> donde puedo comprar esa plantilla de http://people.joomla.org/'
[22:37] <paintman> ??
[22:37] <javiergomez> Xavier__ antes de que respondan te diré que debes actualizar, y que recuerdo que en una de esas versiones se solucionó ese problema
[22:37] <paintman> los modulos estan bien
[22:38] <gnumax> Javier, ya que tu conoces mejor a los miembros del Core por los nick, ahi algun rsponsable de extensiones del JED?
[22:38] <javiergomez> paintman is asking where can he buy the template in people.joomla.org.
[22:38] <javiergomez> paintman, creo que es una plantilla personalizada
[22:38] <Niko86> Si xavier... piensa  primero en actualizarte, es muy peligroso andar con versiones anteriores
[22:38] <javiergomez> creada por gente del proyecto
[22:38] <paintman> ahhh
[22:38] <paintman> que compañias venden aplicaciones como esa?
[22:38] <javiergomez> Niko86 is recommending Xavier__ to update his 1.5.9 version
[22:38] <paintman> soy nuevo en joomla..
[22:39] <paintman> pero ahi ando haciendo mis pininos
[22:39] <paintman> !!!
[22:39] <@jools> paintman: Error: "!!" is not a valid command.
[22:39] <gnumax> hasta donde yo se es una personalización de Azrul para people.joomla.org
[22:39] <Niko86> Javier.. como hago para citar miembros del chat cuando escribo algo?
[22:39] <guxedo> Javier, como es la dinamica de este canal ? son preguntas generales ? o es sobre una temática en particular ?
[22:39] <xavier___> PERO PARA SOLUCIONAR POR EL MOMENTO Q HAGO
[22:39] <guxedo> digo, para aprovechar a Mark
[22:40] <javiergomez> Gnumax says that, he thinks that is an Azrul personal template for People joolmla site
[22:40] <Tonixgm> Hay fecha para una 4 release, pero ¿cuando saldra la buena ?
[22:40] <gnumax> efectivamente guxedo, seria buena una moderacion o canalizacion hacia los miembros del core
[22:40] <javiergomez> guxedo is asking if he can ask any kind of questions or what
[22:40] <javiergomez> guxedo podÈis hacer cualquier tipo de pregunta
[22:40] <javiergomez> siempre y cuando sea relacionada con el proyecto
[22:40] <javiergomez> e intentaremos resolverla
[22:40] <Mark_Dexter> he can ask anything, but I don't have to answer (lol)
[22:41] <javiergomez> pero no tenemos todas las respuestas dice Mark
[22:41] <gnumax> ok, buena matizacion pero te refieres a Joomla en general o people.joomla.org Javier?
[22:41] <javiergomez> ten en cuenta que el proyecto tiene muchos voluntarios
[22:41] <javiergomez> I'm saying that the project is very big, and we don't have all the answers
[22:41] <javiergomez> but we will try to answer everything
[22:41] <javiergomez> pero intentaremos responderlo todo
[22:41] <xavier___> A JOOMLA EN GENERAL
[22:42] <Niko86> Javier...a la pregunta de la migracion 1.5-1.6 quiero agregarle algo
[22:42] <javiergomez> Tonixgm is asking if there is a date for the release of 1.6
[22:42] <Mark_Dexter> no, there is not.
[22:42] <epatarroyo> Hola, ya existe bug tracker habilitado para j1.6?
[22:42] <Mark_Dexter> The process is that we will keep releasing beta versions every two weeks
[22:43] <Tonixgm> thanks Mark
[22:43] <Mark_Dexter> until we are ready for a release candidate version.
[22:43] <javiergomez> Niko86 haven't been answered yet. There will be any migration tool?
[22:43] <Niko86> Qué inconveniente se presentará con las secciones-categorias en la 1.6, ya que la manera como se clasifican los contenidos es totalmente diferente que en la 1.5
[22:43] <Mark_Dexter> Yes, there will be a migration tool.
[22:43] <javiergomez> Mark responde que seguiremos liberando betas cada 2 semanas
[22:43] <Mark_Dexter> Unfortunately, this is not finished yet.
[22:43] <javiergomez> hasta que tengamos una versión candidata a ser liberada
[22:43] <Mark_Dexter> I think we are trying to put together a team of people to work on this.
[22:44] <javiergomez> y desgraciadamente no tenemos esa versiÛn todavÌa
[22:44] <guxedo> Javier, hay cambios significativos en el core de Joomla ? es porque hay proyectos relacionados a potenciarlos, como el Nooku Framework ( http://www.nooku.org/framework.html )
[22:44] <@jools> Title: Nooku Framework - Rapid extension development framework for Joomla (at www.nooku.org)
[22:44] <javiergomez> pero que estamos poneindo un equipo de gente trabajando en ello
[22:44] <guxedo> digo, en el core de Joomla 1.6
[22:44] <Tonixgm> es porque estoy trabajando el proyecto y estoy en el dilema de si lanzarlo en 1.5 ó 1.6 .... gracias !!
[22:44] <gnumax> Marl_Dexter:  how many are of a RC?
[22:44] <gnumax> Mark * sorry ;)
[22:45] <javiergomez> Guxedo is asking about the nooku framework?
[22:45] <Mark_Dexter> Sorry, I don't know anything about the Nooku framework.
[22:45] <javiergomez> Guxedo, eso deberÌas preguntarlo a la gente de Nooku: Mathias, Johan,...
[22:45] <guxedo> ok
[22:45] <javiergomez> Mark responde que no sabe suficiente
[22:45] <isiroca> Hola javiergomez: Me gustaría preguntarle a Mark sobre los cambios de cara a los desarrolladores de componentes y módulos en la nueva versión 1.6. ¿Cuales son las diferencias técnicas del código de la nueva versión 1.6?
[22:46] <guxedo> reforumulo mi pregunta, hay cambios en el framework de joomla ?
[22:46] <guxedo> en cuanto a componentes y modulos
[22:46] <javiergomez> ah Mark, Tonixgm says that he is in the middle of a project, and he don't know if release it for 1.5 or 1.6
[22:47] <javiergomez> his question is, there is changes in the Joomla Framework
[22:47] <javiergomez> ?
[22:47] <Mark_Dexter> Yes, there are some changes in the framework.
[22:47] <javiergomez> he is worried about if that changes affect to components and modules
[22:47] <Mark_Dexter> If you have a project that has to go live by a specific date, I would think that it is safer to use 1.5.
[22:48] <javiergomez> Mark responde que si tienes un proyecto que va a ver la luz en una fecha determinada, el optarÌa por trabajar para 1.5
[22:48] <Mark_Dexter> Also, this decision will depend on what extensions you need.
[22:48] <Mark_Dexter> Even when 1.6 is released, it will take time for extensions to be converted to 1.6.
[22:48] <javiergomez> Mark dice que la decisión depender· también de las extensiones que necesites
[22:48] <Tonixgm> Gracias Javier, era mi planteamiento inicial y creo que lo mantendre
[22:48] <gnumax> Marl_Dexter: joomla.org pay developers to advance the code from the 1.6?
[22:48] <javiergomez> tambÈn dice, que cuando 1.6 salga a la luz, tomar· su tiempo a esas extensiones convertirse para 1.6
[22:49] <guxedo> según lo que entiendo de lo que dice Mark, no estariamos hablando de una versión 1.6 estable hasta mediados del 2 1, es así, Javier ?
[22:49] <gnumax> 2 1??? :S
[22:49] <javiergomez> gnumax pregunta si Joomla.org paga desarrolladores para avanzar el código de 1.6
[22:49] <Tonixgm> esa es la razón Javier, el poder contar con extensiones que ya tengo pensadas y no se si estaran para la 1.6
[22:49] <javiergomez> Gnumax is OSM who has a contract with Louis and Andrew not Joomla
[22:50] <epatarroyo> He visto en la beta a de j1.6 que se puede definir el idioma de un articulo, esto eliminaria la necesidad de usar componentes externos como Joomfish?
[22:50] <epatarroyo> Para sitios multi idioma
[22:50] <javiergomez> guxedo is asking if we are not going to se a stable version until the half of 2 1
[22:50] <gnumax> ok
[22:51] <Mark_Dexter> I would be very disappointed if version 1.6 is not ready by this fall.
[22:51] <guxedo> ok
[22:51] <Mark_Dexter> But that of course would be version 1.6.0.
[22:51] <javiergomez> epatarroyo has seen the 1.6 and he says that you are avaliable to define the lang of a content. His question if is this will make that we don't need extensions like Joomfish
[22:51] <Mark_Dexter> Glad you asked!
[22:52] <gnumax> Mark_Dexter:  Estaría muy decepcionado si la versión 1.6 no está lista para este  otoño. <<--- la comunidad tambien ;)
[22:52] <Mark_Dexter> Jean-Marie just wrote a tutorial on the wiki.
[22:52] <Mark_Dexter> Let me find the link:
[22:52] <javiergomez> Mark_dexter dice que el estarÌa muy contrariado si la versión 1.6 no est· en la calle para esas fechas. (así que ser· bastante antes, eso lo digo yo)
[22:52] <Mark_Dexter> https://docs.joomla.org/Language_Switcher_Tutorial_for_Joomla_1.6
[22:52] <@jools> Title: Language Switcher Tutorial for Joomla 1.6 - Joomla! Documentation (at docs.joomla.org)
[22:52] <gnumax> the community also Mark
[22:52] <javiergomez> Mark:Dexter se alegra de la pregunta de epatarroyo
[22:52] <Mark_Dexter> In that tutorial, JM writes this:
[22:52] <Mark_Dexter> This feature does not work as an association-type display where each content, whatever it is, has an equivalent in another language (it does not replace other extensions as Joomfish).
1[22:53] <javiergomez> dice que Jean Marie acaba de escribir un tutorial en la wiki: docs.joomla.org
[22:53] <javiergomez> sobre el tema
[22:53] <javiergomez> está buscando el enlace
[22:53] <javiergomez> ahí lo tienes  https://docs.joomla.org/Language_Switcher_Tutorial_for_Joomla_1.6
[22:53] <@jools> Title: Language Switcher Tutorial for Joomla 1.6 - Joomla! Documentation (at docs.joomla.org)
[22:53] <epatarroyo> gracias
[22:54] <javiergomez> epatarroyo say thanks
[22:56] <javiergomez> lol, everybody is reading the tutorial
[22:56] <javiergomez> coño que gracia, todo el mundo se ha puesto a leer el tutorial
[22:56] <Mark_Dexter> this would probably be a good document to get translated into other languages!
[22:56] <gnumax> Javier, para Mark: ¬øincluir funcionalidades en el codigo de la 1.6 ahora gestionados por extensiones de terceros y de pago no generara fricciones con el Core y sus posibles partners?
[22:57] <gnumax> ...como sera el caso con Joom!Fish, Nooku, etc.
[22:57] <Tonixgm> hace un rato Niko86 pregunto si saldria alguna herramienta para actualizar la 1.5 a 1.6
[22:58] <javiergomez> Mark dice que sería bueno traducir ese documento a otros idiomas, asi que si alguien se anima
[22:58] <javiergomez> que me avise
[22:58] <Tonixgm> ¬øSera así? y que sucedera con todo lo que hay instalado
[22:59] <javiergomez> Mark please about the niko86
[22:59] <gnumax> supongo que lo mismo que sucedio cuando salio la 1.5 Tonixgm: NADA
[22:59] <gnumax> sera una migracion normal
[22:59] <javiergomez> do you know if there will be a tool for migrating?
[22:59] <Mark_Dexter> a tool for migrating what?
[22:59] <gnumax> Javier, no te olvides de mi question for Mark
[22:59] <javiergomez> from 15, to 1.6
[22:59] <javiergomez> no no me olvido, sólo voy por orden
[22:59] <javiergomez> :P
[22:59] <gnumax> lo se ;)
[23:00] <Mark_Dexter> yes, there will be a migration script for core from 1.5 to 1.6
[23:00] <javiergomez> thanks
[23:00] <Mark_Dexter> obviously, for extensions this will have to come from the extension developer
[23:00] <javiergomez> sí, efectivamente habrá un script the migraciÛn
[23:00] <javiergomez> Mark también dice, que obviamente los escripts de migración de las extensiones deberán crearse por sus desarrolladores
[23: ] <Niko86> perfecto gracias
[23:01] <Niko86> Thanks
[23:01] <javiergomez> Mark
[23:01] <Tonixgm> uuffff eso sera lo complicado !!
[23:01] <javiergomez> a question of gnumax
[23:01] <javiergomez> he ask if
[23:03] <javiergomez> including capabilities of extensions into the core can cause friction with 3party developers
[23:03] <Little^John> incredibly to see how many of the spanishlessons at highschool didnt pay off... :D
[23:03] * Niko86  Quit (Quit: Page closed )
[23:03] <javiergomez> I think he is talking about adding Joomfish functionality into the core
[23:03] <javiergomez> What do you mean LittleJohn?
[23:03] <Mark_Dexter> Well, I believe in JM's article he explains that the new language feature does not replace Joomfish
[23:04] <Little^John> had spanish for 1 year. cant read a thing (almost) ;)
[23:04] <javiergomez> Mark dexter dice que Jean MArie deja claro en su tutorial que esa funcionalidad no substituye a Joomfish
[23:04] <Mark_Dexter> But I suppose any time we improve Joomla! it could affect an extension.
[23:04] <javiergomez> LittleJohn se lamenta de haber hecho 1 año de clases de español y no entender nada, vamos que tiró el dinero
[23:04] <Mark_Dexter> On the other hand, many extension developers would like to see their extensions adopted into the core.
[23:05] <javiergomez> Lol Little John
[23:05] <Mark_Dexter> So it is not always bad, I suppose.
[23:05] <javiergomez> Mark dice que por otro lado, muchos desarrolladores estarÌan encantados de que su extensión fuera incluida en el core
[23:05] <javiergomez> así que eso no siempre es algo malo
[23:06] <javiergomez> Bien hemos llegado al final de la session/ we have reached the end of the session
[23:06] <gnumax> ...economic interests ;)
[23:06] <javiergomez> Gracias a todos / thanks to all
[23:06] <Mark_Dexter> Thank you, Javier!
[23:06] <javiergomez> Gracias a Mark, Ian / thanks Mark and Ian
[23:06] <Tonixgm> muy interesante ... gracias .. thanks !!!!!!!
[23:07] <gnumax> thanks Javier, Mark Dexter, Chris Davenport
[23:07] <javiergomez> Y gracias a todos por participar / and thanks for your participation
[23:07] <guxedo> thanks Javier and Mark...aqui en Argentina es hora de salida de oficina. Gracias por su tiempo a los 2 1
[23:07] <Mark_Dexter> Good luck to both Spain and the Netherlands.
[23:07] <gnumax> Ian, y la comunidad hispana :)
02[23:07] * genson  Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[23:07] <javiergomez> Hope to see you in the next session / esperamos veros en la siguiente sesion
[23:07] <Tonixgm> hasta la proxima !!
[23:07] <isiroca> gracias / thanks...
[23:07] <gnumax> gracias Javier, como siempre acercando la comunidad al Core
[23:07] <gnumax> :)
[23:08] <javiergomez> un placer
[23:08] <Little^John> Thank you
[23:08] <javiergomez> bye
[23:08] <gnumax> bye
[23:08] <Little^John> And thanks for the translation
[23:08] <gnumax> la comunidad sigue en people.joomla.org ;)
[23:08] <javiergomez> Mark, I will send the log file to Robert in order that he could post it in the community blog
[23:09] <javiergomez> le digo a Mark que le enviarÈ el archivo log de la conversación a Robert Deutz para que pueda publicarlo en el blog de la comunidad
[23:09] <javiergomez> gnumax says that community continues in the people.joomla.org site
[23:09] <gnumax> ...community is still in  people.joomla.org ;)
[23:09] <gnumax> thanks Javier
[23:10] <javiergomez> it's a pleasure Little^John
[23:10] <gnumax> thanks jools to  correct links
[23:10] <gnumax> :-D