We publish here the chat log from our last "Ask The Joomla Team" Session.

Next Session will be happen on 23rd June 2010 4 UTC with Brad Baker and Elin Waring.

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Chat log

• jconsultingza

  good evening :)

• AndrewEddie

  morning all

• jconsultingza

  everyone watching football? ;)

• AndrewEddie

  you mean the soccer :P

• Little^John

  Hello

  Who's playing?

• Artyom

  I don't know. I even know nothing about Ukrainian team's current businesses.

• jconsultingza

  hi Little^John

• Artyom

  Hi all.

• AndrewEddie

  hey all

• jconsultingza

  South Africa 0 : 1 Uruguay

  welcome... feel free to jump in with a question

• Little^John

  Why dont you introduce yourself and your respective roles in Joomla? :)

• AndrewEddie

  you want to go first jconsultingza ?

• Little^John

  0 : 2 now

• jconsultingza

  ouch

• jconsultingza

  I'm Jacques. I'm the Secretary of Open Source Matters

• Artyom

  Hi. I've read a few of your blog-posts.

• TonyMontezuma

  Hi friends. I'm Tony from Brasil

• jconsultingza

  hi

• AndrewEddie

  I'm Andrew. I'm on the Production Leadership Team.

• Little^John

  Hello

• TonyMontezuma

  I want to know why the release of JUGs is so slow?

• jconsultingza

  Tony, there been some problems in the past with getting the approvals done.

  This is being looked at by the JUG team, and new members recently joined to help speed things up

• TonyMontezuma

  We made a request for JUGPR (Parana Brazil) and is taking too long

• jconsultingza

  I would encourage you to use the JUG forum to get help if it takes to long.

  https://forum.joomla.org/viewforum.php?f=562

• jools

  Title: Joomla! View forum - Registered Joomla! User Groups (at forum.joomla.org)

• jconsultingza

  geekette mentioned there that they are busy working through the backlog

• TonyMontezuma

  I have already started asking, sorry, I should like first to thank your excellent work with Joomla

• Little^John

  Andrew, we had a short discussion earlier on the choice of database - myisam vs innodb.. Will innodb be default at some point? All the analazies I can find, points to similar speed at "normal" usages

• AndrewEddie

  Little^John: in 1.6 we've removed the engine IIRC so that it assumes your DB server's default

• Little^John

  And a bonus question .. Are there plans to support more databases? (PostgreSQL, sqlite, etc)

• AndrewEddie

  so if you configure for Inno, then your tables will be Inno

• Little^John

  Oh, wasnt aware of that. Neat :P

• AndrewEddie

  it's one of those things where people always want "the other one", so we decided not to hard set it

• Artyom

  Little^John: http://groups.google.com/group/joomla-dev-cms/browse_thread/thread/bf9b937ff29f9b52?hl=en-GB

• jools

  Title: Porting to SQL Server - Joomla! CMS Development | Google Groups (at groups.google.com)

• AndrewEddie

  on more databases, yes, we've done everything we can to allow for people to run with extra DB connectors, it's up to the people wanting to support them now

  we have a branch with experimental connectors to Oracle and MS SQL Server

  so you can connect to external DB's

  running Joomla natively is a little more difficult but we'll continue to tune the API as we come across issues

  one of the blocking factors is you really need people with experience with these other platforms to actually do the work

  if we don't have anyone with that experience, it just can't happen

• Little^John

  True

  Its not important to me, it just came out of curiosity. Thx :)

• AndrewEddie

  but I built the DB class in a way to allow the postgres guys to do something, oh, back in Mambo 4.5.1 or something

• TonyMontezuma

  I am developing a Joomla site for the city of Londrina - PR Brazil, I noticed that when we have over 1,300 items the search is very slow, is there anything I can do to improve it?

  we have 10.000 pages in our portal

• AndrewEddie

  that's not surprising TonyMontezuma, the native Joomla search is not that efficient

  try http://jxtended.com/extensions/finder.html - that will probably help

• jools

  Title: Advanced Search for Joomla! 1.5 - JXtended - Powerful Joomla! Extensions (at jxtended.com)

• AndrewEddie

  (disclaimer: I'm affiliated with that company)

• TonyMontezuma

  Is there a module that improves the search?

• Little^John

  There is plenty. Just have a look at the JED > http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/search-a-indexing/site-search

• jools

  Title: Site Search - Joomla! Extensions Directory (at extensions.joomla.org)

• Little^John

  jconsultingza, can you elaborate on your work? I think most ppl knows a little about Andrew, but less about OSM...

• TonyMontezuma

  @jools I know how to search and where to, just do not know if it will solve the problem.

  ok, tks

• jconsultingza

  @ Little^John: Open Source Matters is there to support the Joomla project.

• Little^John

  TonyMontezuma, lets look at that in #joomla later

• AndrewEddie

  Jools is a bot

• jools

  AndrewEddie: Error: "is" is not a valid command.

• jconsultingza

  http://opensourcematters.org/about-us.html

• jools

  Title: About OSM (at opensourcematters.org)

• TonyMontezuma

  kkkk ok

• AndrewEddie

  she can be annoying sometimes :)

• Little^John

  jconsultingza, What is the biggest thing in OSM at this time?

• mlipscomb

  Then she fits in w/ the rest of us very well :-)

• AndrewEddie

  indeed :)

• Little^John

  jconsultingza..?

• jconsultingza

  @ Little^John. We at OSM are always looking at ways to raise funds to support the project; inform people about Joomla, and guard the Trademark... It's a mix of tasks

• Little^John

  Okay. Sounds .. challenging?

• jconsultingza

  It can be, but it keeps things interesting ;)

• Little^John

  Good thing. Fun at work makes work more fun

  ;)

• Artyom

  Are we planning to create a multilingual solution after which JoomFish and other similar extensions will be unnecessary?

• AndrewEddie

  depends on who "we" are :)

  which is a good point to talk about

  Mark, Louis and I are starting to draw up the "how 1.7 works"

  so we'll be thinking about how things like that get decided

• Artyom

  nice

• AndrewEddie

  one of the interesting things is marrying ideas that people want in "the next version" with people interested in doing the work

  some things we are kicking around are

  * setting a theme for a release - probably using something like the dev conference we did last year in New York

• Little^John

  What is the status of the long anticipated ACL in 1.6? :P

• AndrewEddie

  * having an ideas register and voting system that helps us triage what ideas the majority actually want as a priority

  Little^John: it's finished :)

• Little^John

  \o/

• AndrewEddie

  it's in there, download the beta and try it

• Little^John

  Did you a prettier solution to the interface since the Melbourne conference in ... february? (i think)

  *find

• mlipscomb

  T-shirts available for expressing joy :-)

• AndrewEddie

  no, it's very similar

• jconsultingza

  Remember that you can buy your ACL tshirt from the Joomla Shop! :) ....limited edition

  http://shop.joomla.org/

• jools

  Title: Please, click on the picture of your choice to see the product detail. (at shop.joomla.org)

• AndrewEddie

  it's a first cut, I'm sure we'll get suggestions in once the thing goes stable

  yes, get your collectors edition T-shirts

  er, limited edition

• Little^John

  lol, real nice tshirts :D

• AndrewEddie

  looks around for backup brain

• jconsultingza

  waiting for mine to arive

• Elephantman-

  hi :) aint got much to say, just discovered the event thanks to Little^John. But i'll take the occasion to congratulate you AndrewEddie for the really long term investment in the project, really great. Every now and again, I wonder how people who work hard on custom components (for a specific company or so) can really keep in touch with the community.

  I spend my time coding away in a joomla environement, but never contribute since it's just extra work on already hard days (and work thats most surely on a different focus than everyday duty)

• AndrewEddie

  thanks Elephantman- it really is my pleasure

• Artyom

  Andrew, what is "how 1.7 works" document? Is this some kind of Specification or RFC?

• AndrewEddie

  Artyom: I'll know when it's done, but yes, it will be like an RFC or "here is our vision, what do you think"

  vision for the process that is

• Artyom

  OK. It's very nice.

  Because I feel a luck of some specification for J1.6!

• AndrewEddie

  we will try hard not to repeat 1.5 and 1.6 again :)

• Artyom

  *lack

• AndrewEddie

  they have not been easy journeys for all involved

• jconsultingza

  but I think we have a good end-product! :)

• Artyom

  Of course, no doubt :-)

• jconsultingza

  Personally I think I'll make the jump from 1.5.x to 1.6 a lot faster than I did from 1.1x to 1.5

• Artyom

  So do I

• Elephantman-

  good evening boyz :) (or good day depending on where you are)

• Little^John

  Andrew, Oh, while I remember it, will there be some sort of "cron" for automated jobs in 1.6?

• Artyom

  I think that for cron jobs we need some kind of command line tool, don't we?

• AndrewEddie

  Little^John: not that I'm aware of, not in the core anyway

  would be nice to have a cron manager though

• jconsultingza

  Those who are interested in supporting the Joomla project financially, will appreciate the good news in this blog post: (it 's a bit heavy reading)

  https://community.joomla.org/blogs/leadership/1216-what-happened-to-the-donation-page-revisited.html

• jools

  Title: What Happened to the Donation Page ... Revisited (at community.joomla.org)

• Artyom

  Little^John: Or do you mean not real /usr/sbin/cron?

• Little^John

  Yes

• Artyom

  ok

• Little^John

  An actual cron manager would be great, but it could also be done by code .. (a little more cumbersome I think)

• snellcode

  daily tasks is fairly easy, if your site gets at least 1 hit per day :p

• Little^John

  hehe :P

• mlipscomb

  @Jacques - What are the 3 or 4 main areas those donations go to?

• Little^John

  Will 1.6/1.7 consider more logging of user/system actions?

• Artyom

  Little^John: Do you mean that some native Joomla! application should be running in endless loop and should support scheduled tasks in that way?

• AndrewEddie

  Little^John: 1.7 is really up to what people want and then finding people that want to code it

• Artyom

  I saw that trick ones in Pommo.

• jconsultingza

  @ mlipscomb It's easiest to have a look at the budget that's posted here: http://opensourcematters.org/policies/153-unaudited-financial-reports.html

• jools

  Title: Unaudited Financial Reports (at opensourcematters.org)

• AndrewEddie

  as I mentioned before, we are working on a process for that, but it will really be up to the community to run with the elbow grease to implement it

• Little^John

  AndrewEddie, any way to affect the decissions..? ;)

  Artyom, not really... Lets take the examples to #joomla shall we? :)

• AndrewEddie

  Little^John: I think it will mostly be a case of if somone really wants something and has put in the effort to actually do it, it will be considered for inclusion

• Artyom

  ok, Little^John.

• AndrewEddie

  and that will naturally have preference over an idea that nobody wants to do :)

• Little^John

  Sounds reasonable enough :)

• AndrewEddie

  ok, well I think that wraps it up?

  can't compete with the footy obviously

• jconsultingza

  Thank you everyone

  footy is done.... our keeper got redcarded!

• Little^John

  Thanks for your time. Great to chat with you both :)

• AndrewEddie

  thanks everyone for the chat :)

• Little^John

  Can one please remember to update topic with next weeks stars..? :P

• Artyom

  Yeah. Thanks. So if one have an idea and they want to implement it, is it time to include it to the list?

  I can update it.

  * I mean I can update the topic.

  later

• jconsultingza

  bye all

• Little^John

  And for reference; Soccer game ended South Africa 0 : 3 Uruguay :P

  bye

• Artyom

  bye

  Thanks Andrew and jconsultingza.