Sun 21 Dec 2008 |
JED Will Phase Out Joomla 1.0 Extensions in June 2009
Written by Steve Burge
Back in mid-October, the Joomla team announced that they would be slowly phasing out support for Joomla 1.0. The official "end-of-life" date was set for July 22, 2009.
Today we're taking another step on that path. We're planning for the day when Joomla 1.0 extensions will be phased out of the Joomla Extensions Directory (JED).
Timeframe
- October 13th 2008: Joomla 1.0 end-of-life date was announced.
- March 31st 2009: No more Joomla 1.0 extensions will be accepted into the JED.
- June 30th 2009: Joomla 1.0 extensions currently in the JED will be unpublished.
- July 22nd 2009: Joomla 1.0 end-of-life.
Why Wait Six Months?
- The date is very close to the "end-of-life" date for Joomla 1.0 itself.
- We're aiming to give as much as advance warning as possible to Joomla users and developers. Hopefully half-a-year will allow you to make plans and adjustments.
Reasons for the Move
- Security. Older extensions are often built using older and potentially unsafe coding methods.
- Support. 1.0 has a large number of older and unsupported extensions.
- End-of-life. Joomla 1.0 won't be maintained after the July end-of-life date, so it is a logical step to also stop supporting 1.0 extensions.
- Focus. Allow Joomla developers to concentrate on developing for the current Joomla 1.5 version and also for 1.6.
Questions
- Must I upgrade to Joomla 1.5?
Absolutely not. Personally I have several 1.0 sites that will likely never be upgraded. Migrating a large and complex website isn't a straightforward task and many Joomla 1.0 sites may continue to run happily for years. As the saying goes: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
- Should I upgrade to Joomla 1.5?
That is a more difficult question. Yes, if you have the time, money and expertise. The codebase for Joomla 1.0 was written in 2003 and so the features and extensions available for 1.5 are several years more advanced than those available for 1.0. Also, because there is no such thing as a totally secure application, it is inevitable that new vulnerabilities in 1.0 will eventually be discovered. With the end of life there will no longer be official releases to address these. There will also be no location from which to download an official copy of Joomla 1.0.x if you ever need to replace yours.

2008-12-22 07:26:43
2008-12-22 08:15:12
2008-12-22 14:30:19
- block new j1.0 submissions
- allow editing of the existing ones (so updates are published)
- have a separate search compared for J1.0
BTW, you don't mention what will happen to the labels "compatible with J1.0", "compatible with J1.5" etc. ShoWill these green and red version labels be removed as well?
We have extensions submitted originally for j1.0 which were then updated to include j1.5 versions as well.
Can you elaborate a bit on this please?
Regards,
Fotis
2008-12-22 15:43:19
2008-12-22 15:48:16
2008-12-22 19:00:55
2008-12-22 21:04:27
2008-12-22 21:09:25
There are some commercial (and other) professional websites whose development has cost several thousands of euro. Most of these websites will NOT migrate to Joomla 1.5 over night. From my experience customers will let them run for five or more years.
Of course these sites still need some maintenance, e.g. security updates of 3rd party components. And don't fool yourself or others, there are several components which will never adapted for Joomla 1.5 (and think about all individual components which have been developed for Joomla 1.0 and will not be adapted to 1.5 native).
The EOL period is definitely too short. And removing 1.0 components is quite a bad idea.
Better: implement a way to select what components (1.0 and/or 1.5) are displayed in JED (maybe in the users preferences).
2008-12-22 22:50:40
Personally I don't want to upgrade because there are still lots of security issues with 1.5 (according to the number of forum posts) Reminds me of 1.0 before it became completely stable.
2008-12-22 23:03:53
Regards
2008-12-22 23:10:27
2008-12-23 00:41:18
Intersting idea. I'm sure the JED editors will use the next 6 months to think about ideas like yours.
2008-12-23 01:37:36
2008-12-23 03:11:37
2008-12-23 04:16:51
That would be great wouldn't it. If you want to help make this happen and contribute to development, be sure to get in touch with the development workgroup.
2008-12-23 07:35:21
2008-12-23 11:49:47
Hope to see you then!
2008-12-23 12:36:33
personally , i think not !!!!
I'm thinking seriously of giving up on joomla in general , as a result of the non-stop joomla! team wrong decisions and one sided questioned behavior for the last couple of years .
I assure you that there are people at the moment planning to make copies of the 1.0.x JED listing , and may even transload the joomlacode contents and establish online websites and libraries as a paid service for the kicked out users of 1.0.x .
Some of those people are not so far away from here , if you know what i mean
2008-12-23 13:00:10
Porting.
I have had more than one situation where I needed an extension that was not available for Joomla! 1.5. I found a simpler 1.0 extension and ported it to Joomla! 1.5.
In short, I think it is a horrible idea to get rid of the Joomla! 1.0 extensions. The community or the original developer may port/update these for 1.5.
Maybe you could start phasing out 1.0 by getting rid of the download link on the main download page (or at least making it smaller)
2008-12-23 13:02:01
The whole story reminds me very much of Microsoft "Use Vista or die" story.. J1.5. is just NOT better enough that would justify this kind of enforcement.
2008-12-23 13:23:30
Yes we read it (JED editor here). You also have a forum where you can elaborate this with follow ups: http://forum.joomla.org/viewforum.php?f=262Sherif
I dont see the market for the 1.0 only repository... most of that extensions are simple dead! Authors dont even update their infos. When a download link are reported dead... its usually cause for unpublish because authors don't update. Its not easy to mantain 1.0 when the authors don't mantain their extensions. And users keep reporting issues with those extensions.
So the extensions must have, at least, a Joomla 1.5 legacy badge!
The Archive 1.0 could be a good idea but not as a filter system: only a static copy somewere else!
2008-12-23 13:23:39
People have to understand that every piece of software comes to an end. It happened with PHP 4, Windows NT, Wordperfect (remember the good old days?). All we can do is openly communicate about it and give a notice ahead. We are aware aware there still are a lot of 1.0 sites out there, and if people want to continue they are really free to do so. The good thing is we are GPL and you have that freedom to take the source code so you actually can do just that.
2008-12-23 16:16:15
2008-12-23 17:17:17
I'd also like to point out that one of the major reasons I've decided to go with Joomla rather than Drupal or Wordpress is because of how often Drupal and Wordpress feel compelled to issue updates -- that is just ANNOYING. I saw Joomla still using 1.0 even after 1.5 has come out, and both have been around for some time, and I think, at last, STABLE software that doesn't release a new anti-hack every other week. *sigh* Was I wrong? Is Joomla going to start behaving like Nuke, Drupal, Wordpress, and give us these ridiculous updates every other week, making it virtually impossible to keep one's site up-to-date? I sure hope not. If programs are written right the first time, all these updates are unnecessary (yes, Microsoft, I'm talking to you, too -- they finally have one that works -- XP Pro -- and now they want us to use Vista? I don't think so!!!).
Please don't go down this amateurish track of the constant gratuitous updates.
2008-12-23 17:49:57
There are many good j1.0 programs out there that have not been converted yet to j1.5.
Why re-invent the wheel?
2008-12-23 22:17:51
Anyhow, let's see how the next few months go, I am sure the JED editors will end up doing what's best for the community.
Thanks to them, we have such a unique resource that helps to make our project as successful as it is today.
2008-12-23 22:27:35
2008-12-26 10:52:51
2008-12-28 03:22:58
2008-12-28 20:58:27
This is self promotion of course, but I just want everyone to know there is a place to list your hard work. The JED has valid reasons to remove the items, and we're here to fill the gap.
We also offer the ability to sell commercial or distribute free items for those who don't have their own site or are looking for an additional pipeline.
Best,
-Kyle
2009-01-15 17:10:45
It is arrogance and disregard of end users on the level of Microsloth to just decide to totally eliminate the work and applications that have been created before.
Not everyone has the time to research, retest, reinstall and totally redo sites, especially since there is no central standard for having compatible replacements available for all modules, components, mambots etc. Being totally dictatorial and removing access to existing proven apps shows a total disregard and contempt for folks that aren’t not as technically savvy as yourselves, is at the very least very rude and self important.
I do regular backups and know how to use them. I am an adult and can make my own informed decis=ion on what to use, at my own jeopardy.
Please have some concern about the end users who had dedicated hundreds of hours creating content, not just the latest in coding and wiz bang features.
2009-02-03 02:59:37
AndriaD say true!
" and I think, at last, STABLE software that doesn't release a new anti-hack every other week."
YES! All these updates are UNNECESSARY!!! Very bad idea! Please don't remove Joomla 1.0, i liked it project, it's BEST cms! But not 1,5 Joomla!
I don't like Microsoft Windows Wista (dung!), don't like and joomla 1,5. My best and favorite cms - Joomla 1.0. It's very good work!
I think it is a horrible idea to get rid of the Joomla! 1.0 extensions. It is a necessary cms!
And the EOL period is definitely too short. And removing 1.0 components is quite a bad idea.
"Not everyone has the time to research, retest, reinstall and totally redo sites, especially since there is no central standard for having compatible replacements available for all modules, components, mambots etc." YES!!!
Personally I and my friends don't migrate to joomla 1.5! Very good idea is to have Joomla! 1.0 extensions archive.
Please keep a static 1.0 archive! Thanks.
Joomla enthusiast.
2009-02-15 18:57:32
2009-03-09 01:37:06
2009-05-03 23:04:35
2009-06-08 11:40:20
2009-07-03 13:20:32
2009-07-05 07:16:46
2009-07-21 21:49:32
I think it's horrible that you've removed the old extensions. I guess I'll go visit a couple of the other sites that have been listed, looking for extensions, instead of looking at your ads and maybe purchasing from your advertisers. It's cool, send a chunk of your visitors to another site, I realize we're not worth much if we still use 1.0. Guess it's not worth it to you to take care of your users or your advertisers...
Make a tool that upgrades my site easily, and ports over all the mods, and I'll upgrade the old sites. Otherwise, I'd have to rebuild these sites for free, just to keep them looking similar.
2009-07-23 14:24:53
But I understand that with the upcoming 1.6 release things will be more complicated for the extensions directory to support 3 different joomla platforms...
2009-07-25 03:54:36
2009-07-30 08:29:13
I have a site that needs a new form - so now I have to upgrade it to 1.5 just to add one form! Its not going to happen. So I'll end up doing something bespoke and it'll be even longer before this site goes to 1.5...
2009-08-04 15:01:15
2009-08-04 19:04:09
2009-08-07 03:29:33
Is common sense a thing of the past?
We need a site specifically for J!1.0 and the extensions built for it.
2009-08-22 21:17:08
2009-08-26 18:46:05
2009-08-31 06:57:14
2009-09-02 18:32:29
A static archive would be wise for companies with large implementations who can't migrate right away, and need time to test. If you abandon companies who were early adopters of joomla, you may face backlash and lose popularity with those users. Looking at the comments above, it appears you already have. This was not a good decision, hopefully there is an independent archive of j1.0.x extensions somewhere. I had a lot of trouble migrating my relatively simple deployments of j1.0 to j1.5, and ended up re-doing the sites manually in most cases, which was a time consuming nightmare. I love joomla, particularly 1.5, and I am evangelist for this community, but I am rather shocked and dismayed by how this was handled.
2009-09-05 16:53:49
I do run j1.5.x sites and I'm happy I upgraded. That said there are lots of j1.0.x sites out there that, for one reason or another, will never upgrade to 1.5 or 1.6.
(One of those reasons tends to be the wholesale changeover in administration from 1.0 to 1.5 sites which we may have to go through again for 1.6. This is time consuming, guys, something which lots of us don't have.)
As for the repeated complaint about the devs not getting enough volunteers to help out does that really surprise them when one comes on and scolds us about it. With an an attidue like that, Wilco, is it any wonder you don't get volunteers?
And irony of ironies the reCaptcha below is no longer available on the JED because it allegedly doesn't support j1.5.
So a trip to cmsmarket.com later I find it, install it and guess what it does!
It says volumes about the accuracy of the cull, doesn't it?
ttfn
John
2009-09-06 21:37:28
2009-09-07 06:47:20
I've started to get Chinese spammers and came here for the first time in a long time looking for a solution.
Every where I turn now leads to frustration. I really thought I would find an answer here. But everything I need is no longer here... Reading through the forum, there are at least 10 plugins or components that will do job. But they are gone, instead I'm looking at having to put in the time, which I don't have, to upgrade to 1.5... Not to mention I may lose everything in the process...
I was beginning to plan so more sites and Joomla was the easy answer, but now I'm not so sure...
-Andy
2009-09-12 14:39:31
There are thousands of businesses/websites & developers that are happy with what they have. If you force transition you end up loosing credibility to stability -that you/joomla are very supportive and will not rock the boat. I wouldn't want to work with a company that offers rapid change eliminating all support & function for a system you recently integrated. Personally i've had 1.5 break several times with no way of undoing the damage after A LOT of time invested in it. Templating also became another issue.. the code seemed extreme or overly complex as if generated by a program.
2009-09-22 20:35:50
2009-10-11 12:20:58
2009-10-11 12:22:14
1.015 to 1.5.8 but im in doubt right now because this will ake greateal of time of testing the move, which i think is echnically challenging.
2009-10-11 12:22:57
sobummed... Ihave asmall website, ~3000visitors a month, I barely make any money at all and I'm not
worried because it's of the people that use it.
2009-10-13 03:02:35
2009-10-14 14:49:03
2009-10-17 19:17:16
2009-10-28 01:50:30
2009-12-21 22:30:32
I've tried migrating to 1.5, but some modules/components are not available!. Many times I tried to update all my modules and components, but always getting some kind of incompatibility, 500 error, etc. Keep on Joomla 1.0 or migrate to another CMS?. I'm tired. Migrating to Mambo, all modules/components are working again.. See ya guys!