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An end of an era

Joomla! 1.0 has served us well, but after nearly 4 years of service it has reached retirement. Things are moving forward with Joomla! 1.6 and there is no better time to start migrating to the Joomla! 1.5 release!

As Wilco announced in October last year, July 22nd 2009 was the date that we were going to wave good bye to an old friend. That day has passed and its time for Joomla! 1.0 to take its place in history with over 1.6 million downloads on JoomlaCode alone! (Unfortunately we don't have statistics from the time it was on the old Joomla! Forge). But as we end one era of Joomla! 1.0, we're entering a new era lead by our latest and greatest releases.

The first of which, Joomla! 1.5, wasn't just another release of the Joomla! CMS but it was almost an entire rewrite from scratch. Joomla! 1.5 has introduced a new framework for building powerful extensions and applications whilst maintaining a backwards compatibility mode with Joomla! 1.0 to aide in migration. So far Joomla! 1.5 has had a phenomenal time with over 3000 1.5 compatible GPL extensions listed in the Joomla! Extensions Directory. Joomla! 1.5 powers an increasing amount of the internet with some statistics indicating nearly 0.7% of the internet is running Joomla!. That's a big number and it keeps growing.

But the Joomla! team hasn't let 1.5's success stop them, the next version of Joomla!, version 1.6, is set to add new and interesting features such as the much anticipated ACL system for Joomla!. Stay tuned to hear more about the upcoming release of 1.6!

However, if you are still after the old 1.0 packages, don't worry that it is still available on JoomlaCode even though it isn't supported or maintained. Check out the links below to grab a copy. I'm putting these links up here so that if you need a fresh copy of 1.0 to help fix a site or similar, they're somewhere that can be easily found. I'd strongly encourage everything to migrate to Joomla! 1.5 and keep up with a supported release. I look forward to seeing everyone on a copy of Joomla! 1.5 or in the future, Joomla! 1.6!




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  1. Might be good to include some links to the top 1.0x to 1.5x migration tools in your article.
  2. @Ed

    in addition to that we need tools to migrate or move old joomla 1.0xx to a new version 1.5xx my nose is bleeding..:'(
  3. I understand the developers dont want to continue developing J!1.0 but removing all traces of it from Joomla.org is irresponsible at the very least.

    With millions of websites using it why be so brash and drop it? How about a portion of Joomla.org being dedicated to it? Its only a virtual space and theres always more room for more...

    As a comparison, lets stop making parts and servicing all cars built before 2005. Its makes about as much sense.
  4. indeed it is truly an end of the era, a time to say good bye to an old friend. It serve us well, thanks to joomla team - Joomla directly or indirectly provide jobs to hundreds of thousands of people.

    A truly great achievement :-)
  5. I started on 1.0 a year and a half ago, couldnt get 1.5 to work at that time. I upgraded to 1.5 a few month ago and by then it worked with with no problem. The migration only took about 15 minutes, besides making the new template and finding extensions. Overall I like 1.5 much better and extensions pretty much stopped for 1.0 at the beginning of the year.
  6. I second the request for Migration tools and instructions.

    I have a Joomla 1.0.15 site with Virtumart running for a client.

    I'm TERRIFIED to try to migrate and potentially break a very stable and nice (somewhat customized) site.
  7. @ Those of you who've not yet migrated...
    The announcement of Joomla1.0's retirement was made nine months ago, and there were many, many hints to this effect beforehand. This should not come as a surprise. Moving forward with 1.5 makes a great deal of sense for developers and is far more likely to grow Joomla's marketshare (and consequently increase Joomla's stability and functionality) than the original 1.0, based on the previous Mambo framework.

    @Koaweb
    Comparing web technology to a car makes little sense to me. Does your cellphone from 10 years ago still work? The problem with trying to maintain a Joomla1.0 site is not so much Joomla but the technology it's based on. Php and MySQL (in their upcoming versions) will not be supporting some of the coding required for early Mambo releases and I can only assume certain required Joomla code will be deprecated shortly as well. I agree that upgrading to 1.5 can be scary, but Telus won't support my old phone anymore and requires me to get a new one (purchased in 2004). Time to bite the bullet and upgrade.

    Upgrade instructions:
    http://docs.joomla.org/Upgrade_Instructions

    Here's to the future and 1.6. My glass held high 8-)
  8. I need to upgrade to the highest J1.0 version before I migrate, and I don't have time to migrate right now anyway. I agree with whoever said it was irresponsible to take 1.0 away as if it never was. You can put all the disclaimers you want about safety and security but still, it is the user's decision and timing, not yours, that should prevail.
  9. I think the important difference why many corporations, organizations, and indivduals choose open source solutions is that there is no one person or company who can require you to stop using a version that you have built a business on.

    Of course, support can´t go on forever but the focus should not be on Joomla´s market share, rather it should be on building better tools for a better web.

    What about Apache 1.0? You can still find all of the docs with ease and download it with no problem. Security releases are still made even though active development has stopped.

    Apache 1.0 was released on December 1, 1995. 14 years ago.

    Seems like joomla´s lifespan matches your corporate phone more than it matches a real open source solution who´s goal is to serve the community. But lateness and greatness is definately sounds more exciting.

    Anyway, joomla is an excellent tool. All the best with the future developments. 8-)
  10. I wouldn´t recommend upgrading to anyone really. Even if the core could be upgraded, the extensions are most likey not to be supported and you are more likely to loose your data or time in pursuit of a few new features with little success. Better to just restart the site from scratch in my opinion and don´t play with something that is already working.
  11. I reckon links to migration tools, with ratings by Joomla's core devs, would be an excellent idea.
  12. We will remember you Joomla 1.0 ^_^

    RIP
  13. I have done the migration and can attest that it can be difficult for two reasons:
    1. I have over 2,000 articles which make up a living online archive of what has happened in the Moreton Bay area of Australia in the last five years. The biggest problem was the positioning of the 1000 or so pictures and captions which had been poorly catered for in the migration tools.
    2. While I made sure I never hacked the code, the siren song of the vast array of available modules, components and bots had done its work so many of the features such as automatic links between the forum component and articles for comments had to be removed. Functionality comes with a hidden cost.
    However, in life you must roll with the punches. I did manage to make the transition and my site is now speedier, more stable and easier to update. The functional gaps will new or revised code as the need is felt by the community.
    But, best of all, we now have a platform that is capable of accommodating code that fits with the new social networking directions about the net unthought of during the 1.0 era.
    The question should be can we evolve Joomla quick enough? If you want a taste of what 1.6, 1.7 and 1.8 will have to live with then I suggest that everyone looks carefully at the interactive framework of Google Wave--it makes the current fad for social networking look like child's play.
  14. To guysmiley,

    Regardless of how long ago the announcement was made it is still irresponsible to pull all remnants of J!1.0 off of the site. What is the harm in leaving it be? If you want to use 1.5 then just ignore the section dedicated to those choosing to use 1.0. Its stable and there are MANY websites using it with developers who have no intention on (so called) upgrading. Ever heard of the cliche "If it aint broke, dont fix it"?

    Ive seen the evolution of Joomla from Mambo. It has nothing to do with market share. The developers who chose to keep 1.0, like myself, generally have been using Joomla for many years. Probably longer than most. New Joomla developers will use 1.5. because they are "forced" to. They will also need to constantly "update" their site due to security like I have over the years using 1.0. Im tired of it. I have finally become comfortable with what I have and dont want to stress out every time a security hole has been found. Updating 20+ websites over and over is very time consuming. Thats if your site does not get hacked. Then you have to get the site back up and then update. Lots of stress.

    My comparison to an automobile may not make you see the light but it does make sense. My house still uses a telephone that I bought in 1989. Funny, it still works fine.

    What about the big switch to tableless design? While CSS is great there will always be a need for good old HTML tables.

    My issue is that the change / deletion of documentation / etc... is being forced upon us. What happens when 1.5 is no longer "supported" due to the launching of 1.6?
  15. Why are you forcing us to go to 1.5? I love Joomla 1.0 and I want to keep on using it. Fine if you stop support and maintenance; ok if you remove all traces from your sites (including extensions). But do you really think Joomla 1.0.x will ever be upgraded?
  16. to Koaweb....with regards to your telephone analogy..the keyword here is "bought"

    Thank you Team Joomla...keep up the great work!!
  17. To WC,
    Who cares the keyword is "bought"? Are you kidding?

    I'm not criticizing Team Joomla's efforts and hard work as you are trying to insinuate. I have been a supporter of Joomla and Mambo since 2003, I write answers to issues on the forum and I promote the use of Joomla with all of my clients. How about you?

    Quit splitting hairs and start listening to others in the community, many of which have supported Joomla from the very beginning.
  18. @Koaweb

    "However, if you are still after the old 1.0 packages, don't worry that it is still available on JoomlaCode even though it isn't supported or maintained. Check out the links below to grab a copy. I'm putting these links up here so that if you need a fresh copy of 1.0 to help fix a site or similar, they're somewhere that can be easily found."

    I don't get it. Sounds like they're keeping the files on joomlacode. They're not removing/hiding them... ?

    As well, I agree that a 1.0 support centre should be kept on the Joomla 1.0 website (for those who choose to continue using it) though I don't feel the Joomla core team should be in any way responsible for maintaining it. Something similar to MS's approach to previous OSs: http://support.microsoft.com/ph/1139

    I too have used/promoted Joomla since the Mambo days and have more than 130 sites running on this platform. I've upgraded each of them through the years and plan to continue doing so. Viva 1.5 8-)
  19. Koaweb,

    I don't get what your copmlaining about. They state in the blog that the joomla install packages for 1.0 are still available on Joomla Code and will be. The extensions are no longer easily found but most of the developers who created them still have them on their own sites.

    You don't see Microsoft still holding onto Windows 3.1 or 95 items on their websites, why should Joomla be any different?

    If you choose to stick with the old stuff you need to have all the old stuff that you use BACKED UP in case of disaster and understand the fact that you've chosen to stick with an outdated, unsupported product.

    Taking 1.0 extensions off this site has been fantastic for less advanced users b/c now there's no guessing if the extension will work with their install of Joomla or if they had to run legacy mode to use it.
  20. -My issue is that removing all traces of J!1.0 from Joomla.org, including extensions, makes no sense. Does it hurt anyone by leaving them be? It's not a physical space where theres limited room. Its a website, the space is virtual and limitless.

    -Dynamic websites, unlike PC operating systems, will always require maintenance. Old automobiles still have manuals and parts available dont they? Otherwise they will grind to a halt. Not everyone will buy a new car because of a new available feature or engine type.

    - If something like keeping the old extension versions in the directory confuses novice users then they should not be developing websites in the first place. That should be a no-brainer.

    -You cant compare having the extensions still available at individual developer websites vs. collectively at Joomla.org like they were before. Why shouldnt they be easy to find. Are 1.0 websites less valuable to the Joomla community? I dont think so.

    -No one has asked that the developers keep supporting 1.0., I dont know why it keeps being brought up.

    -We all know the install packages are still available. That was never brought up.

    -Thank you for your instructions on backing up my stuff. Especially considering I mentioned that I have been using Joomla/Mambo since 2003. Again, dont know why its been brought up.
  21. All these wonderful comments about the article and joomla 1 and no one mentions the typo in the article where
    Quote:
    But as we end one era of Joomla! 1.0, we're entering a new era lead by our latest and greatest releases.
    should have the word led, not lead.
    Sorry, but misspellings are what brings out my OCD:-)
  22. I have been surprised to see how many would try and hang on to outdated software? If not for the sake of the latest and greatest then why not for the security of your website and that of your clients?

    To the one who stated how brash it would be to not support it, Hmmmm? I am sure you must be a supporter of IE 6 as well then? There is little difference in your comparison...

    Congrats to the Joomla team for all the hard work you have dedicated to the community! I for one am looking to 1.6 with open arms and will embrace the upgrade of all my sites!!!8-)
  23. Try and understand not everyone is a big time coder like you guys. Removing old components etc is really irresponsible.We were thinking of forming a Joomla Team in our city in India but now my trust on you guys is down.
    Not everyone supporting Joomla is a coder who can overnight create similar templates and find alternate for old components. Is there any democratic process for taking such decisions? Can you have a simple poll as should we remove old components? Why do you say X no of downloads if its only for developers.Sounds like Joomla is only for high knowledge coders and people like us are outsiders.I wish I had known that you guys will behave so irresponsibly. Say clearly Joomla is only for Coders infact take test before allowing people to download. I read a silly statement we want developers to focus on Joomal 1.5. Is it not a top down approach. In short IT IS SOCIALLY IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOUR on part of the leaders of Joomla.
  24. rest in peace 1.0...may you fly with angels, far, far away. so far away that i never have to migrate another 1.0 site ever again.
  25. I think... we have done a lot sites with joomla 1.0, but this time is over. Joomla 1.5 has good framework, 4000 extension do it really good and extensible. I hate see Joomla 1.0 now.

    Burn Joomla 1.0 and all extensions for it!, and yes Neelzs... you need be coder for migrate extension from 1.0 to 1.5, but you dont need be coder for use anyone of these 4000 extension and more...

    Cheers!
  26. This is a kind of lesson for the future: don't use any component unless you can't absolutely live without it. Especially components based on user content and/or components that don't have behind a dev group really motivated and devoted to continued developing.
    It's sad, but wise.
  27. As an older developer I have to say when dealing with clients money there is no easy way to say we need to update your site as Joomla 1.0 is being replaced with 1.5.

    If it is working to their satisfaction they can see no justification to upgrade from a known working state. The cost of upgrade and testing is hard to justify in this situation.

    Having the ability to add compontents and modules is what makes Joomla so powerful. However there is a price to pay for this flexibility - upgrading is never clearcut.

    I have been using Joomla since 2005 and I think it is a wonderful product and has made development of CMS web sites much easier.

    Carry on the good work.
  28. Thank you guys for your efforts
    though change is a must
    i hope we will see you around in the future
  29. Richard summed up my situation.
    My clients don't understand. All they know is it has been stable and low maintenance for years. They have never been happier. Now I am presenting them with fees for the upgrade as well as any compromises. I realize this is my problem and I will deal with it. Not all my clients are on 1.0.xx but some of them are going to be alot of work to upgrade.
    I do promote 1.5 and I just wanted to share my situation.
  30. Seems silly to remove stuff to me. Fair enough don't update it or maintain it, but why remove it? at least archive it somewhere.

    Personally, I accept that any Joomla install I do can't be upgraded. I know its a write off.

    As for clients if they want new pluggins for an old core, well I'm sure most could understand why the core would need an upgrade for new features...theres hundreds of analogies that apply.

    It's just the way it is, commercial, non-commercial, IT industry, automobile industry...

    ...most extensions require so much buggering around to make them work seamlessly ya should know ur screwed already anyway?
  31. My main site (out of about 30) is 1.0.15 and I'll keep it running as long as I can before "migrating" to 1.5. I'm not against 1.5 per se, I love it. I have a lot of sites running that version as well. But much custom code in components has been developed and $1000's paid for said code for 1.0 in my case. I don't want to do that all again unless absolutely necessary!
  32. If Joomla! 1.5 is
    Quote:
    almost an entire rewrite from scratch
    , why didn't you call it Joomla! 2.0 ?!?

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