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Joomla! Projecting

If you've been following the developments lists (or even if you haven't), you've noticed a flurry of activity around Joomla 1.6 in recent months. While we haven't been very good about keeping our milestones, there are a few very good reasons for that.

The first and biggest reason is we've been trying to shoot at a moving target. The scope for Joomla 1.6 was pretty basic—adding ACL and nested categories. Had we stopped there, we could have theoretically had Joomla 1.6 out by now. But while working on it, we and others in the community have been constantly saying to ourselves "wouldn't it be really friggin' cool if Joomla had...?" This kind of scope creep happens all the time in the real world, and there's a propensity to go overboard when our hands aren't forced on a specific deadline. There's always that "one last thing" we can squeeze in.

Secondly, it's the fallacy that "this will only take a few minutes to implement." Many developers (and not just developers) often fall victim to the notion that a task will be short, only to discover that it's more complex under the surface than initially thought. Minutes quickly turn into days or even weeks. It's human nature.

Third of all, there's a feeling that if something doesn't go in now, it won't go into the Joomla core for years to come. We have a pretty progressive roadmap for the next versions of Joomla and we'll try to keep a regular pace of development. Since Joomla progress is primarily determined by its contributors, the pace will be commensurate with such. So while this isn't true, some have the feeling it is.

In the past, we've had some false starts and sometimes been unclear about direction or needs, but we hope to be better at it. The Joomla Project has taken a lot of criticism during it's relatively short existence, which, deserved or not, comes with the territory. But, all in all, we're all working towards a common goal of making the next version of Joomla as powerful, extensible, and compatible as it can be.

If you work with Joomla, you know full well that the community is pretty vocal about the things they like and don't like. Joomla events are prime occasions where we receive feedback on what's working for people and what isn't. There may not always be an answer to every issue, but we do listen.

Essentially, the process of working on Joomla 1.6 is where all of this activity comes together—all those emails, forum discussions, Joomla Days, and other random "ingredients" of information go into a giant bubbling cauldron and soon becomes (hopefully) the tastiest soup you've ever eaten. Decisions are made based on what ingredients we can combine and recommending against others that won't taste good (or even spoil the stew). All is done with a keen eye on the quality of the end-product—it has to look good and taste good.

At this time, the bubbling cauldron of Joomla 1.6 is getting near time for us all to get our first good taste. We've added the ACL, nested categories work, a new Article Manager is written, new core libraries like JForm have been added, and we're working on fresh new templates for both the front-end and the back-end. We're also working on a way to make upgrading from Joomla 1.5 as painless as possible. So, in order to get a round of solid feedback from the community, we're looking to release a second Alpha very soon and follow up with a quick Beta after that.

So please be patient.

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  1. It's great news from community, go Joomla!
  2. Sounds good!
    I am a new Joomla user of about a month ago and love it already. The only bug bear is the lack of real user groups, and as I understand it will be a feature of the new Joomla wont pay for the privilege. The sooner it comes out the better, I am holding out the publication of my website for this!
  3. Thanks for providing insight. ;-)
  4. we've been waiting for so long now, but we'll be patient ! Cause it'll be worth waiting ! I'm sure of that !
    Thanx a lot for your investment !!!!
    Fab
  5. " Many developers (and not just developers) often fall victim to the notion that a task will be short, only to discover that it's more complex under the surface than initially thought. Minutes quickly turn into days or even weeks. It's human nature.

    this is a very poetic and solid comment. i think i will use it in my lectures! well done boss.
  6. Thanks for the update but not in a rush, happy that it takes some time... not Waiting for Joomla! 1.6.
  7. The first reason is not very good advertisement, is the team in control of the scope? The second reason.. please do not give in to temptation.
  8. Thanks for the update. I have a website I am waiting to build on 1.6 so I appreciate being kept informed on this.
  9. Thanks for the update...We have all been waiting very patiently and are excited for the beta release!
  10. Not only Joomla! 1.6 will come out making everyone happy but, in the meantime, is making us more patient, thankful and better in our communication skills.

    Thank you, once again, for sharing!!!

    ;-)
  11. Woohoo! I hope the article manager makes it easier for people to write stuff. But maybe that is the WYSIWYG editors fault. What about CKEditor? I think that should be part of it =) Good stuff! It is looking really good. Thanks for all your hard work!!!
  12. Most features that I waiting for are advanced ACL and workflow. It is a good news for ACL. I have tested for J1.6 and thanks for a good work. My company use Joomla! for internet as well as intranet.

    I will do my best to support Joomla! by give free training to students. Thanks:-D
  13. Thanks for the update, Ron!
  14. Joomla, the best CMS in the world!
  15. I'm just worried what will happen to all my 1.5 components and modual and stuff that i had to pay for...
  16. its very interesting to read such articles - information and autor style complement one another.
    Thanks for your hard works and enthusiasm.
  17. Cant wait for Joomla 1.6. ACL looks Sweet.Individual ACL permissions for menu's is awesome addition.Please release a stripped some version.Been waiting for long.
  18. Wow, nice to read this update! Thanks.
  19. I can'ts wait to get me some tastes!!!
  20. I am glad to read that we would update j1.5 to j1.6,Realy Nice and Thanks to all Joomla team.
  21. lets hope its not loaded up with millions of bugs like all the other jooomla releases?

    I thpought id give joomla a go as its been a while since i used, what i found is nothing short of imcompetance of thehighest order, the 1.5 install is broken on alot of systems yet no one seesm to care lol just DL the nightly version which has more bugs again!!! lol.. what kinda bowl of porridge is this?
  22. Ron thanks for an insightful view of the reality of OpenSource community development. Whether it's software or a physical community what you articulated sums it up to a T.

    There are always brickbats and bouquets and regardless be aware that the silent majority really appreciate the work ... even though they may not always vocalise it.

    Bring on 1.6
  23. Thanks for communicating to the community from your team Ron. Really appreciate it and great progress direction for Joomla baby.
  24. in my pc in every 5 mins a captcha comes which says to type the words in the given box before it get shutdown.....hope you will a solution for this............please sent it to ma email address as early as possible...........please.........thank you
  25. Like so many others, I'm waiting excitedly for this release with much needed changes in the ACL. Thanks for keeping the communication flowing!
  26. The part you mention about making the migration from 1.5 to 1.6 as painless as possible sounds good, for that's what keeps me worried.

    I'm also excited while waiting for Beta release. Let's us all spread the news that the Alpha 2 is available and let's us all make comments or help as much as possible.

    _o/
  27. Very good article. Let's be patient and support the development of J1.6!
  28. seriously
  29. Guys you are doing a fantastic job!! Waiting a little longer is not a problem ... take your time to get a stabile 1.5 transition and 1.6 ...

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